Supercorsa SP / Supercorsa SP OEM - Page 2

Steve B · October 11th, 2012, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve B

Will chime in on the S20's for sure once I've had a go on 'em. They do have good buzz; Dave Moss' review was what really got me interested in trying some. Said he'd take 'em over the BT003RS or BT016 Pro in a heartbeat, and that's for track use on an R1 - no small praise. Q2's have kind of been the no-brainer go-to tire for me for a while but I'd really like a bit more feedback, especially at the front, plus they don't like being cold much.

Back to the Supercorsa as this is a Supercorsa thread, I don't know if the profile differs from V1 to V2 but the 200/55 is definitely steeper on the sides than what I've seen on any of my other tires. I have a 675 Daytona and an RC51 in the garage with the Pani. Both have fresh Q2's on them (180/55 & 190/55 respectively), and the 200/55 Supercorsa looked more like a 190/60 sitting next to the 55-series Q2's than just a bigger tire with the same profile.

Mine wore quite evenly, which I attribute to the dual compound. Did wear it all the way to the edge, but didn't quite finish grinding off the lettering at the very edge. Not surprising in street use, since you just won't spend a ton of time at full lean in that environment. I was not previously a Pirelli fan to be honest, but I do like these SP's. They have good feel and a lot of grip for a street tire, and seem to wear about as long and a bit more evenly than a Q2 for me. Ran them mostly at 32F/34R for general riding, maybe down to 31/32 if I was going out for a short play. Higher than track pressures, but of course you don't put as much heat in 'em on the street so they need to start higher.

Just giving this a bump now that I've mounted a new 190/55 Bridgestone S20 rear as I'd mentioned earlier. Ride impression will have to wait a few days as I just put it on this evening, but I'm thinking the impact on the TC and Odo should be minimal to none. Reason being, the mounted new 190/55 S20 is 5mm TALLER than the worn 200/55 Pirelli it replaced. Measured them at 650mm vs 645, and as Bridgestone spec the S20 at 649 I'd say that's a solid measure. Pirelli spec the Supercorsa at 656mm, and while I don't know what diameter new Supercorsas actually do measure out at, I'd be surprised to have worn the thing down by over a centimeter. Possible I suppose, but in any case the S20 dimensions are within the range of a functional 200/55 Supercorsa, meaning if the TC has been OK for the OEM tire for the last half of it's life, then it ought to be fine for this one.

Was also surprised to see how much steeper the profile of the S20 is compared to the fresh 190/55 Dunlop Q2 on back of my RC51. You can tell it's a wee bit narrower than the OEM Pirelli on the Pani, but it looks promising. Will see how they feel, muck with the TC settings a bit and report back after the weekend.

Cloner · October 12th, 2012, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by zvez

on the street?? And front worse? What pressures are you running. I'm at 3000+ miles including 3 track days (tho admit my track ride ability I'd rate as a high mediocre.)

Yup...on the street. 30f/32r for pressures. I suspect the front was worse on this set because they experienced the 600 break in miles as part of their short life. I pressed them to nearly 1500 miles and REALLY wore 'em out proper...but they were fully into the wear bars at 1200 miles. During the bike's first 1000 km I actually adhered to the under 6000 rpm recommendation but still rode the bike pretty hard, so the front took a beating but the rear was just along for the ride. I tend to ride on the front anyway, and I'm a pretty big fella.

I mounted a set of Power Ones two weeks ago. I chose a 200/55 "C" rear and 120/70 "B" front. Those are working well so far. They're stickier than the OE Pirellis, as you'd expect from DOT race rubber, and the traction control doesn't show any adverse effects though it does intrude less often. I suspect this is because the tires simply aren't slipping as much as the OE Pirellis. TC is set at "3", at which setting I normally see the yellow light when near the edge of the tire (if I take time to look at the dash) but can't feel the TC actually intruding on drive using the OE tires. I've left it on this setting for comparisons sake with the new tires. With the Michelins I ride the same way, but when I look at the dash the yellow light is illuminated less often than with the OE tires, though I feel no difference in power delivery. I haven't actually gotten ham-fisted with it to see if I can force a slide, but that's not something I'd normally do, anyway!

I figured I'd give 'em a try as I got the pair for $350 which is a little less than I'd pay wholesale for the OE Pirelli rear only. I figure if I get over 1000 miles out of 'em I'm money ahead. They warm up quickly, which I didn't expect from track rubber at a street pace...though my street pace would be considered obscene by most folks....and after 150 miles on 'em I'm pretty sure they'll last about as long as the OE Pirellis. I'll report back as they wear in more.

zvez · October 12th, 2012, 11:48 AM

Scott, I got my street ducati pirelli SP diablo supercorsa for $251 rear and $155 front.

Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa SP Rear Tires - RevZilla

these are identical to the Ducati OEM tires with the exception of the script on the edge of the tread surface.
Unfortunately looks like they're out of the 200/55 right now

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Originally Posted by Cloner

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I figured I'd give 'em a try as I got the pair for $350 which is a little less than I'd pay wholesale for the OE Pirelli rear only. I figure if I get over 1000 miles out of 'em I'm money ahead. They warm up quickly, which I didn't expect from track rubber at a street pace...though my street pace would be considered obscene by most folks....and after 150 miles on 'em I'm pretty sure they'll last about as long as the OE Pirellis. I'll report back as they wear in more.

Phil · October 12th, 2012, 05:19 PM

Chris,
i doubt that they are the same. Check the links in my initial posting. Don't let them fool you

That's the reason i started this thread...

zvez · October 13th, 2012, 03:38 AM

HI Phil,

Yep as I mentioned I knew they were not the OEM tires but the compound difference certainly can't be enough at my level of riding ability. I'll be putting them on after Roebling and we'll see how it goes

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Originally Posted by Phil

Chris,
i doubt that they are the same. Check the links in my initial posting. Don't let them fool you

That's the reason i started this thread...

supduc10 · October 13th, 2012, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve B

Just giving this a bump now that I've mounted a new 190/55 Bridgestone S20 rear as I'd mentioned earlier. Ride impression will have to wait a few days as I just put it on this evening, but I'm thinking the impact on the TC and Odo should be minimal to none. Reason being, the mounted new 190/55 S20 is 5mm TALLER than the worn 200/55 Pirelli it replaced. Measured them at 650mm vs 645, and as Bridgestone spec the S20 at 649 I'd say that's a solid measure. Pirelli spec the Supercorsa at 656mm, and while I don't know what diameter new Supercorsas actually do measure out at, I'd be surprised to have worn the thing down by over a centimeter. Possible I suppose, but in any case the S20 dimensions are within the range of a functional 200/55 Supercorsa, meaning if the TC has been OK for the OEM tire for the last half of it's life, then it ought to be fine for this one.

Was also surprised to see how much steeper the profile of the S20 is compared to the fresh 190/55 Dunlop Q2 on back of my RC51. You can tell it's a wee bit narrower than the OEM Pirelli on the Pani, but it looks promising. Will see how they feel, muck with the TC settings a bit and report back after the weekend.

Looking forward to your opinion/experience Steve on the S20s. I did some maths with available tyre sizes and different profiles for comparison to give me an idea of possible TC problems and kind of come to the same conclusion you"ve written about here. Great minds hey

. Only concern now Ste is what you said about the steep profile,I wasn"t expecting that. I hope they wow you on the road. If not then its back to my old trusted friends(Dunlops).

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October 12th, 2012, 05:19 PM	#24
Phil Senior Member Joined: Feb 2012 From: my garage Posts: 1,339 Thanks: 153 I Ride: oh yes, I do!!!	Chris, i doubt that they are the same. Check the links in my initial posting. Don't let them fool you That's the reason i started this thread...