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WAfatboy · October 10th, 2012, 08:29 AM

Unless you are a very serious rider who has the talent to ride a superbike to its limits then then the slip-ons should be ample, they sound and look great, the bike is more rideable than with the stock pipes.

YearOne · October 10th, 2012, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mark419ny

i started this thread and as much as i like the input i will say this. I am putting it in caps because this was the question. SLIP ONS OR FULL TERMI. As of now i can only buy termis so thats the question. No offense AR as of now i cant get anything from you. IF YOU A CONSUMER WERE IN A DUCATI STORE WOULD YOU GET FULL SYSTEM OR SLIPS. Thats it i dont care about ar akra arrow or any other manufacturer out there. why? cause as of today 10/10/12 i can only buy TERMIS.

I have answered this, in dyno tests the slip ons out perform the Termi headers, save your money.

ScrapperX · October 10th, 2012, 08:58 AM

I prefer the full system. It gets rid of the CAT Converter which will reduce some of the heat and increase power and most of all it reduce weight. But you can always start off with the slip on and if you want to get the headers down the road you can.

I dont know how the slip on produce better power with that CAT installed. It amazes me how people believe that unless the bike is shipped different in terms of what type of CAT installed/Stock Up Maps than what they ship to California. I know we have tough emission laws here but come on a bike with a CAT produce more power than a bike without a CAT, 20MM larger headers for more air flow and reduced back pressure with the same silencers? Im sure super stock will be adding that CAT back on next year.

mark419ny · October 10th, 2012, 09:06 AM

year one yes you have answered it and thank you for your input. In my rant i wasnt referring to the people who actually answered the question.

pedrin · October 10th, 2012, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ScrapperX

I prefer the full system. It gets rid of the CAT Converter which will reduce some of the heat and increase power and most of all it reduce weight. But you can always start off with the slip on and if you want to get the headers down the road you can.

I dont know how the slip on produce better power with that CAT installed. It amazes me how people believe that unless the bike is shipped different in terms of what type of CAT installed/Stock Up Maps than what they ship to California. I know we have tough emission laws here but come on a bike with a CAT produce more power than a bike without a CAT, 20MM larger headers for more air flow and reduced back pressure with the same silencers? Im sure super stock will be adding that CAT back on next year.

Rich22, Scrapper makes a very good point. Any thoughts?

Steve B · October 10th, 2012, 11:38 AM

See page 58 of the parts manual (the US one, anyway); CATs are in the cans on the Pani. Slips = no mo CATs.

Rich22 · October 10th, 2012, 11:55 AM

The cats are in the stock silencers.

The best option for the pani at this moment in time is the stock headers with slip on cans and a rapidbike module.

We have shown this on 6 bikes on our dyno. Millsport the official Ducati road race team have independently shown this on an independent dyno. Rapid bike have shown this on there testing facility dyno.

All independent 3rd party tests nothing to do with AR.

Hope this helps your choice (for fear of getting shot down in flames and accused of trying to freeze the market prior to our system release)!

mark419ny · October 10th, 2012, 11:58 AM

what is a rapid bike moduale

Rich22 · October 10th, 2012, 12:01 PM

We posted up a thread dedicated to the rapid bike tests.
Check it out.

iamlance · October 11th, 2012, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by WAfatboy

How the hell did this become Brits vs Yanks???

They're not going to come here starting fires again, are they??

Beanflicker · October 11th, 2012, 04:16 AM

.

Nope....!

We just want our tea back..!!....

.

WAfatboy · October 11th, 2012, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by iamlance

They're not going to come here starting fires again, are they??

Historical reference? The Whitehouse 1814?

Trauma · October 11th, 2012, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich22

We posted up a thread dedicated to the rapid bike tests.
Check it out.

Not to open a can of worms, but how does this compare to PC 5? And will either of these require updates as Ducati comes up with different upmap "enhancements" along the way?

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WAfatboy Senior Member Joined: Apr 2012 From: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 1,006 Thanks: 366 I Ride: Ducati 1199S, BMW HP4	Unless you are a very serious rider who has the talent to ride a superbike to its limits then then the slip-ons should be ample, they sound and look great, the bike is more rideable than with the stock pipes. Last edited by WAfatboy; October 10th, 2012 at 08:32 AM.

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October 10th, 2012, 08:58 AM	#83
ScrapperX Senior Member Joined: Aug 2012 From: California Posts: 493 Thanks: 107 I Ride: 1199 Panigale	I prefer the full system. It gets rid of the CAT Converter which will reduce some of the heat and increase power and most of all it reduce weight. But you can always start off with the slip on and if you want to get the headers down the road you can. I dont know how the slip on produce better power with that CAT installed. It amazes me how people believe that unless the bike is shipped different in terms of what type of CAT installed/Stock Up Maps than what they ship to California. I know we have tough emission laws here but come on a bike with a CAT produce more power than a bike without a CAT, 20MM larger headers for more air flow and reduced back pressure with the same silencers? Im sure super stock will be adding that CAT back on next year.

October 10th, 2012, 09:06 AM	#84
mark419ny Senior Member Joined: May 2012 From: New York Posts: 952 Thanks: 161 I Ride: 1199 s abs	year one yes you have answered it and thank you for your input. In my rant i wasnt referring to the people who actually answered the question.

October 10th, 2012, 11:38 AM	#86
Steve B Senior Member Joined: Jan 2012 From: East TN Posts: 339 Thanks: 53	See page 58 of the parts manual (the US one, anyway); CATs are in the cans on the Pani. Slips = no mo CATs.

October 10th, 2012, 11:55 AM	#87
Rich22 Senior Member Joined: Mar 2012 From: Uk Posts: 611 Thanks: 149	The cats are in the stock silencers. The best option for the pani at this moment in time is the stock headers with slip on cans and a rapidbike module. We have shown this on 6 bikes on our dyno. Millsport the official Ducati road race team have independently shown this on an independent dyno. Rapid bike have shown this on there testing facility dyno. All independent 3rd party tests nothing to do with AR. Hope this helps your choice (for fear of getting shot down in flames and accused of trying to freeze the market prior to our system release)!

October 10th, 2012, 11:58 AM	#88
mark419ny Senior Member Joined: May 2012 From: New York Posts: 952 Thanks: 161 I Ride: 1199 s abs	what is a rapid bike moduale

October 10th, 2012, 12:01 PM	#89
Rich22 Senior Member Joined: Mar 2012 From: Uk Posts: 611 Thanks: 149	We posted up a thread dedicated to the rapid bike tests. Check it out.

October 11th, 2012, 04:16 AM	#91
Beanflicker Senior Member Joined: Apr 2012 From: UK Posts: 135 Thanks: 11 I Ride: 1199, '05 R1.	. Nope....! We just want our tea back..!!.... .