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| Member Joined: Oct 2012 From: Singapore Posts: 71 Thanks: 6 |
Didn't see many comments on here re riding style so will add my .02. All other comments regarding warm up and suspension settings are of course spot on. I've done a lot of track days on a lot of tyres and find a lot of this type of wear is usually attributed to riding style. If I saw that pic you put up on first page without reading anything I would have said "first track day". The compounds we run these days (non-slick) will all do this pretty much regardless of suspension setting if you are slow-in and fast-out of a corner. As you get smoother so will your tyre wear. It's not a criticism. Almost every first time track day rider (including me) will take it cautiously into a corner and then screw on the power when they feel safe and pointed in the right direction. It's that screwing on of the power which does that to your tyre. Walk around the pits at your next track day and you'll see what I mean. As your confidence increases so will your corner speed and your tyre will wear more uniformly. |
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| Senior Member Joined: Jun 2012 From: Wellington New Zealand Posts: 193 Thanks: 1 I Ride: Ducati 1199S | Quote:
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| | #63 |
| Senior Member Joined: Jun 2012 From: Wellington New Zealand Posts: 193 Thanks: 1 I Ride: Ducati 1199S |
Suspension set, front stand on and tyre warmers fit. All set for next track day!!!
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| | #64 |
| Member Joined: Oct 2012 From: Perth, Australia Posts: 61 Thanks: 6 I Ride: Ducati Streetfighter |
Bike would look AWESOME with that pink basket.
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| | #65 |
| Senior Member Joined: May 2012 From: Someville, Somestate Posts: 2,182 Thanks: 149 |
Nice choice on the CapIT .
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| | #66 |
| Senior Member Joined: Jun 2012 From: Wellington New Zealand Posts: 193 Thanks: 1 I Ride: Ducati 1199S | |
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| | #67 |
| Junior Member Joined: Nov 2012 From: venice CA Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 |
I'm going to go against the grain here and say that you do not need tire warmers with a street tire. I've seen people with warmers crash first session out- hell I've seen a guy high-side in front of me on the very first turn. You are NOT racing- there is no shame in taking a lap or 2 to get up to speed- especially if you are new to the track. Personally, and this is just my opinion, don't worry about modding your bike, don't worry about slicks, and don't worry about "going fast." Get comfortable on the bike and work on disciplines like- throttle control, body position, reference points, etc. going slower will give you more time to think. Last but not least - have fun! |
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| | #68 |
| Senior Member Joined: Dec 2011 From: Canada Posts: 449 Thanks: 38 I Ride: 1199 Base, '12 Arctic Cat F800SP |
^+1 Plus you'll have to deal with generators, cords and getting the blankets on and off.....only to be delayed at staging for a crasher on the previous session....who probably had warmers |
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| | #69 |
| Senior Member Joined: Oct 2012 From: here to eternity Posts: 111 Thanks: 10 |
Two words - PEACE OF MIND .....wait, that's three words! ![]() Road tires don't need tire warmers??? I have an $8000 repair bill that says otherwise. Sure I was inexperienced at the time and didn't do a warm up lap (or two) but what tire warmers afford you at the track is priceless. Lets do the math: Assuming you get 6 sessions a day at the track and you take 2 laps to get the tires fully up to temp (which I do when not using tire warmers), thats an extra 12 laps a day at full tilt..... thats the equivalent to another session. Depending on how many track days you do in a year, tire warmers pay for themselves pretty quickly. This coupled with the extra confidence of knowing your tires are operating at temperature is worth something to me.Get the chicken hawk warmers - they're good, solid units. BTW, I get the same rubber 'melting' as your tires when my pressures are too low, not too high. Just sayin'...... (I run the AMA spec Dunlop 211's on my track bike) |
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| Junior Member Joined: Nov 2012 From: venice CA Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 | |
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| Member Joined: Aug 2012 From: Sydney Posts: 80 Thanks: 2 I Ride: RS125>S1000RR>1199S | |
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| Senior Member Joined: Jun 2012 From: Wellington New Zealand Posts: 193 Thanks: 1 I Ride: Ducati 1199S | |
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| Senior Member Joined: Jun 2012 From: Wellington New Zealand Posts: 193 Thanks: 1 I Ride: Ducati 1199S |
Second track day done, much more confidence this time out and using all of the tyre. Dave Moss was there for the day so he set me up and made subtle changes all day, might I add, he is the man! One quick look at the tyres and he knows whats necessary to get the best out of them and your riding style. Need to work on toning down the DTC as I had it set at 5 still for the day and the light was on or flashing pretty much every corner. For those that are interested, Dave set the front comp to 16 and rebound at 16, rear comp at 16 and rebound at 6. Tyre pressures at front 29, rear 26. Very nice, even and progressive wear. |
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| Senior Member Joined: May 2012 From: ga Posts: 1,723 Thanks: 147 |
any idea of the track temp? Dave set my bike up, a good bloke! Quote:
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| | #75 |
| Member Joined: Jun 2012 From: Northern California Posts: 53 Thanks: 3 |
Damn, dave is getting around. Hope he'll be back in NorCal in June. Planning on doing Infineon.
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| | #76 | |
| Senior Member Joined: Aug 2012 From: Lake Forest Posts: 124 Thanks: 2 I Ride: Duc 1199 Base w/ABS Tricolore | Quote:
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| Senior Member Joined: Jun 2012 From: Wellington New Zealand Posts: 193 Thanks: 1 I Ride: Ducati 1199S | |
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| Senior Member Joined: Aug 2012 From: Lake Forest Posts: 124 Thanks: 2 I Ride: Duc 1199 Base w/ABS Tricolore | Did you notice a big difference on the rear? 32 PSI is the recommended pressure, which I always thought it was too high. Did it drop the ride height a bit? What about traction? What about turn entry (slower, faster,same)? thanks!! (Great info) |
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| | #79 |
| Senior Member Joined: May 2012 From: ga Posts: 1,723 Thanks: 147 |
Here's Dave's website, he's got a couple panis he's tested and has all the settings listed. Dave's a terrific source of info. Looking at his 13 schedule looks like he's staying on the west coast for the most part. MOTO-D inner suit | Feel The Track |
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| | #80 | |
| Senior Member Joined: Jun 2012 From: Wellington New Zealand Posts: 193 Thanks: 1 I Ride: Ducati 1199S | Quote:
Not to blow my own trumpet but first time out I was getting overtaken left right and center, this time out with all the changes I was the one doing the overtaking. Huge difference! | |
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