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| Junior Member Joined: Oct 2012 From: Va Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 I Ride: 1199s and 2006 R1 LE | Gearing opinions for 520 Chain Conversion
Hello everyone, First post and already looking for opinions. Getting ready to order a 520 Chain Conversion and wanted to know if anyone has already done it. If so, what gearing did you select, how do you like it and do you wish you would've gone with a different gearing? Thank you in advance for any information you can provide me. I believe stock gearing is 15/39 Chris |
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| Senior Member Joined: Jun 2012 From: St. Louis Posts: 3,100 Thanks: 469 I Ride: 1199 ABS, K1300S, ZX7R |
i just installed the AFAM alloy system and 520 chain. After reading several posts on it, I chose 14 tooth. I am rarely on track, and this was a better "around town" ratio. I lost some top end, but not planning on spending much time in the 180's anyway!
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| Senior Member Joined: Jun 2012 From: Auburn Hills, MI Posts: 245 Thanks: 21 I Ride: Ducati 1199 S ABS & '09 Triumph Daytona 675 |
Why do a 520 conversion? Is the stock chain not good enough for around town?
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| Senior Member Joined: Jul 2012 From: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 156 Thanks: 26 I Ride: '12 Ducati 1199 Panigale, '95 Ducati 900 SS/SP, '67 Aermacchi/HD Sprint that thinks it's a CRTT | Quote:
Racing? Absolutely, as there is a significant weight savings involved (my racer runs a 428 chain on custom sprockets) and they receive more regular maintenance under closer scrutiny (at least on my bikes). 530 chain is about 25% stronger than 520 if memory serves correctly. | |
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| Senior Member Joined: Jun 2012 From: St. Louis Posts: 3,100 Thanks: 469 I Ride: 1199 ABS, K1300S, ZX7R |
It is the gearing with a 14 tooth that improves sub 50 mph riding. I have a lot of 30,35, and 40 speed limits where I ride. It is nearly impossible to go 35 on this bike. It, like me, has a "need for speed"! The AFAM quick change is a lighter, slicker system the stock.
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| Senior Member Joined: Jun 2012 From: St. Louis Posts: 3,100 Thanks: 469 I Ride: 1199 ABS, K1300S, ZX7R |
I hardly think the DID ERV3 chain will break, it's rated at over 4 tons of tensile strength.
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| Senior Member Joined: Jun 2012 From: Auburn Hills, MI Posts: 245 Thanks: 21 I Ride: Ducati 1199 S ABS & '09 Triumph Daytona 675 | Quote:
just don't get that decal I guess.
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| Member Joined: Sep 2012 From: Frisco, TX Posts: 75 Thanks: 3 I Ride: 2013 MultiStrada Pikes Peak, 2012 1199S |
I dropped a tooth up front as I do all my bikes... Best seat of the pants performance super cheap mod one can do. My MultiStrada can't keep the front wheel down and now the Pani has the same wonderful problem! I take that back... Sticker / decals are the cheapest performance enhancements!!! |
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| Senior Member Joined: Jul 2012 From: Omaha, NE USA Posts: 347 Thanks: 32 I Ride: 1199 Panigale |
I'm running the AFAM 520 quick-change setup with 15/41 for the track, and it's pretty good for medium speed tracks. I'll probably go back to a 39t rear if I go to a long track like Road America or Miller next year. For a shorter track, I might try 14/41 ,that's what I used to run on my 848 race bike but that revved slightly higher than the Panigale so might be too short, maybe 14/39, we'll see.
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| Senior Member Joined: Jun 2012 From: St. Louis Posts: 3,100 Thanks: 469 I Ride: 1199 ABS, K1300S, ZX7R | Quote:
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| Senior Member Joined: Jul 2012 From: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 156 Thanks: 26 I Ride: '12 Ducati 1199 Panigale, '95 Ducati 900 SS/SP, '67 Aermacchi/HD Sprint that thinks it's a CRTT |
It's your bike. Do what ya gadda. My Pani seems to do fine in 35 mph zones with stock gearing, but I certainly understand the allure of shorter gearing for an underpowered, overgeared bike like this. OK....maybe just overgeared. 8)
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| Senior Member Joined: Jun 2012 From: St. Louis Posts: 3,100 Thanks: 469 I Ride: 1199 ABS, K1300S, ZX7R | Quote:
they have owned. Coming from a K1300S, I realize this bike will never be as easy to ride around town, but that's not why I bought it! I can always go back to a 15. But I like that the whole drive train is lighted up a bit. I did my first commute on it today, 39 degrees! | |
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| Member Joined: May 2012 From: Nashville Posts: 69 Thanks: 2 | Quote:
Also looked at DID charts and 520 chain not recommended for anything over 750 cc. I think I will follow what the maker recommends. I guess it would work if you keep it in Wet mode as it is only rated at 120 hp as I believe this is all the hp the 520 chain is recommended for. Just my 2 cents. Last edited by Brickcues; November 2nd, 2012 at 08:19 AM. | |
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| Senior Member Joined: Jun 2012 From: St. Louis Posts: 3,100 Thanks: 469 I Ride: 1199 ABS, K1300S, ZX7R | Quote:
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| Senior Member Joined: May 2012 From: ga Posts: 1,701 Thanks: 145 |
the 520 conversion I know it's very popular and of course all the race teams "do it" but I just don't understand the attraction. Granted you lose rotating mass weight (tho small amount). On the ape forum we actually had a guy do a weight comparo between 525 and 520 sprockets and chain after he did the mod, as I recall it was maybe a pound and half savings. Just seems like a lot of extra expense for very little realized benefit. The 14tooth mod is very popular, you might consider getting on of the case savers, as lot out there about this being a pretty tight radius for the chain to negotiate. just a bit of insurance in case the chain ever were to brake, You can get the case saver at Desmo Times LLC - The Home of DIY Ducati Maintenance Parts and Accessories As with all mods people do tho, to each their own. Quote:
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| Senior Member Joined: Jun 2012 From: St. Louis Posts: 3,100 Thanks: 469 I Ride: 1199 ABS, K1300S, ZX7R |
Thanks for the case save suggestion, Motowheels has them as well. As for weight, I also replaced the flange and nuts with titanium, so rotating-wise, altogether quite a savings. I wanted to reduce weight without going the BST route.
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| Senior Member Joined: Mar 2012 From: philly Posts: 217 Thanks: 9 I Ride: 2012 Ducati 1199 Base and 2005 Ducati 749 |
Its funny how DID recommends 750cc n down for 520 gearing but Motogp has been using 520 size for years now on those overpowered machines lol
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| Junior Member Joined: Jul 2012 From: Boston Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 | Quote:
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| Senior Member Joined: May 2012 From: ga Posts: 1,701 Thanks: 145 | |
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