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Old January 21st, 2013, 06:58 PM   #1
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Those with the 2013 models... does yours smoke ?

Just thought I'd ask the question, as I know it was such a worry on the 2012s... do any of you with the 13s notice a lot of smoke during start up?...

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Old January 21st, 2013, 07:56 PM   #2
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can't answer for the 13s but i think this was overrated even on the 12s. i don't think my 12 ever smoked and only recall a few people posted about it here.
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Old January 21st, 2013, 08:33 PM   #3
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Should the question be oil consumption rather than smoke at startup?
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Old January 21st, 2013, 08:34 PM   #4
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can't answer for the 13s but i think this was overrated even on the 12s. i don't think my 12 ever smoked and only recall a few people posted about it here.
CONGRATS! You're the only bastard who bought a 1199 that didn't smoke a ton within the first 1000 miles...NEXT PERSON PLEASE!
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Old January 21st, 2013, 08:40 PM   #5
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Every 1199 that came out of the dealer here, smoked. I saw several of them in person.

It's a non-issue regardless. The reverse is actually true, I'd worry if it didn't.

If yours didn't smoke then keep a very close eye on it, there have been a number of bikes that haven't smoked which have had to have the entire engine replaced because they seized.

Apparently not smokin is a sign that the engine isn't lubricating properly and this can manifest itself several thousand km later.

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Old January 22nd, 2013, 01:21 AM   #6
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Mine is a 2013 and now has 1500 miles on it. Had a puff of smoke a couple of times in first 2-300 miles but not a sign since.

Guess that means mine is terminal and I need a new engine soon ;-)
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 02:00 AM   #7
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Damn, I'm going for a ride on my non-smoking bike this weekend. Better pack a spare engine!
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 04:28 AM   #8
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 05:24 AM   #9
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I guess I'm screwed then. Mine has never smoked. Mine is a 2012 and I bought it in September.
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 08:18 AM   #10
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+1 ~ 2012 Bought in July, First initial startup smoked than maybe one or two after that.
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 09:03 AM   #11
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CONGRATS! You're the only bastard who bought a 1199 that didn't smoke a ton within the first 1000 miles...NEXT PERSON PLEASE!
I never had any smoke issues with my 2012. There was an answer that Ducati put out regarding the smoke issue that Duc put out on his Q&A for Ducati North America thread.
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 10:34 AM   #12
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Mine got some white smoke the first time it get fired up in the stealership. Ever since no smoke. i got the bike beg Jan.
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 02:58 PM   #13
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CONGRATS! You're the only bastard who bought a 1199 that didn't smoke a ton within the first 1000 miles...NEXT PERSON PLEASE!
that's fine, others will chime in on their experiences. not exactly sure what you meant by "smoke" but all bikes have some puff now and again, so did mine at first. but nothing concerning like the smoking issues you may have seen on youtube. certainly not a ton of smoking. guess our engines will eventually seized lol.
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 03:27 PM   #14
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I have a 13, the only smoke seems to be the fact thats its new. Its the coating on the motor, etc. My Mercedes did the same thing for the first couple hundred miles. Every sport bike I've owned has a small burn off phase of smoke when it was new.
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 03:38 PM   #15
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If they continue to smoke, its probably a sign that the valves have not been fully seated. Which is important to do on break-in. We have talked about this before so I'll make it easy.

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Does not want you to take it over 7k for the first 620 miles and 8k up to 1000 miles not because it is broke in better, it is a legal issue. If the engine were to malfunction mechanically and break the odds that you could be seriously injured are greatly increased at higher RPM's, it's a safety requirement same as they have emission requirements which restrict engine power (just like the flat spot between 4-5k rpm). Because you're valves and piston rings are not fully seated it will continue to smoke. Sometimes may have a little on startup from condensation in the oil on well broken in engines.

What experts say:
Bike will have some condensation in the oil on startup so you may be seeing a bit of moisture especially in the colder weather. If you see a lot of smoke during warm/hot weather it is probably because your valves did not seat during break in. I have talked to many dealerships and mechanics, and read many scholarly articles on engine break in and here is what I have gathered-
1. Realize that the limitation they want you to keep is a legal parameter and not an engineering parameter.
2. To do a good break in, out of the box... run it to red line and then back down, the strong engine braking is what causes the valves to seat and proper seating means less unburnt fuel (causing smoke) and higher compression, therefore causing better performance out of your machine. As well as seating the piston rings to cause the same effects of smooth movement within the sleeves.
3. It is also normal for the Panigale and BMW S1000RR to burn roughly a quart of oil every 1,000 miles. (Called 2 dealerships and talked to the techs about why my bike needed oil every so often)

If you don't believe this than call and talk to techs. Otherwise, no need to worry. You may make a little less power and it will smoke a little. It's not like it's a steam engine!
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 04:03 PM   #16
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I saw a small puff of smoke the other day when I started up after sitting for a week, but no issues otherwise. I ran the bike hard in short spurts from the beginning.
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 04:45 PM   #17
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I saw a small puff of smoke the other day when I started up after sitting for a week, but no issues otherwise. I ran the bike hard in short spurts from the beginning.
That's the way to do it! Rev it high, then let it engine brake hard. Right out of the box.
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 05:00 PM   #18
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Some good input here, thanks guys.
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Old January 22nd, 2013, 06:05 PM   #19
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Smoking is bad for your health! Quit the habit and give your bike to me.
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Old January 23rd, 2013, 06:26 AM   #20
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Ducati has changed the scrapers in the 2013 models so not as much oil can pass the rings and burn.
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