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Old April 28th, 2012, 09:58 AM   #21
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Sorry bud, that is incorrect.

You are misreading it, as the units change by the two sets of numbers.

It says:

Front tyre pressure:
2.1 bar - 2.3 kg/sq. cm

Rear tyre pressure:
2.2 bar - 2.4 kg/sq. cm

Not 2.1-2.3 bar, 2.2-2.4 bar



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I wasn't wearing my specs when I read it so every chance I've not noticed the print.

Jesus H... getting olds a bummer...!!!....
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Old April 28th, 2012, 12:07 PM   #22
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Cheers XBox.....!

I wasn't wearing my specs when I read it so every chance I've not noticed the print.

Jesus H... getting olds a bummer...!!!....
Arn't we all

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Old April 28th, 2012, 05:50 PM   #23
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So, 30F 32R cold.
What would you run at the track considering you'd normally drop about 4-6 PSI out of it?

Same pressure, or drop it?
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Old April 28th, 2012, 07:38 PM   #24
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So, 30F 32R cold.
What would you run at the track considering you'd normally drop about 4-6 PSI out of it?

Same pressure, or drop it?
Drop it by the said margin.
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Old April 29th, 2012, 04:24 AM   #25
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The line is getting closer and closer between sportbike 'street/sport' tires and 'track/race' tires. With pressures already at F30.5 R32, I'd say dropping a bit may be ok, but I wouldn't go as low as F25 R26. It is likely that you'd experience significant flex in the tire sidewall carcass, especially at tighter tracks. At higher speed tracks you'd likely find tires would overheat at very low pressures. I'd start at the recommended street pressures for a lap or 2 then adjust accordingly.
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Old October 7th, 2012, 11:59 PM   #26
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Tire pressures

I love how everyone is giving their ultimate pressures. Tire pressure is adjusted according to outside temp., type of road, etc. but mostly the temp. The colder it is, the lower the pressure. Right now in mass. , it's pretty cold, I'd probably go down to 28-28. Lots of highway, probably 30r-31/32f. You should probably have less or the same in the rear. If I remember correctly, pirellis and Michelin are usually the same front and rear, maybe 1 lb. up in the front. Dunlops were always 4 lbs. differance example:30r-34f. But most importantly, you need to run what feels good to you. As for the pressures on the side of the bike, they seem high. The manual is more realistic in my opinion. Good luck.
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Old October 8th, 2012, 03:55 AM   #27
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Riding road, just had a new rear put on. I'm riding cold 30 F and 29 Rear, has a nice feel.

Previously had 31F 30R. So I may go down a little more to see how that reacts.
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Old October 8th, 2012, 08:00 AM   #28
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Guys,

The Google translated German manual I have says the following:

Front - 2.1 bar / 30.5 psi
Rear - 2.2 bar / 32 psi

Dealer put 30.5 psi and 48 psi, which seems right to me?

Thoughts?
Hi Xbox,

just had my rear tyre done at protwins uk, due to nail. They recomended 32f 34r which is what I'm running and seems pretty good for the roads. AC
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The line is getting closer and closer between sportbike 'street/sport' tires and 'track/race' tires. With pressures already at F30.5 R32, I'd say dropping a bit may be ok, but I wouldn't go as low as F25 R26. It is likely that you'd experience significant flex in the tire sidewall carcass, especially at tighter tracks. At higher speed tracks you'd likely find tires would overheat at very low pressures. I'd start at the recommended street pressures for a lap or 2 then adjust accordingly.
i can only agree.
ran 29F/27R on a hot (90F) day at the track and chewed up the tyres. massive hot tear. handling was crappy. didn't get to correct it properly, as i didn't get the tyres to cool down that day.

last time (75F) with 32f/31r way better wear pattern and much improved grip and handling, as well as high speed corner stability. (non-OEM supercorsa, see related thread)

pirelli at ducati island in indy mentioned their recommended pressure was 2.3 bar/33.35 psi f and r
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Old October 8th, 2012, 10:39 AM   #30
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for the track? That's higher than the recommended street pressure.
Also, generally, how much of an increase in pressure from cold to hot is considered ok?

It's interesting as here's Pirelli's recommended pressures for the Supercorsa DOT track tires.



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pirelli at ducati island in indy mentioned their recommended pressure was 2.3 bar/33.35 psi f and r
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for the track? That's higher than the recommended street pressure.
Also, generally, how much of an increase in pressure from cold to hot is considered ok?

It's interesting as here's Pirelli's recommended pressures for the Supercorsa DOT track tires.
that's what the guy's said there - for the panigale.
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Old October 8th, 2012, 12:00 PM   #32
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Just texted mechanic friend who is doing 1199 dealership training class out in Cali. His response for cold street tire pressures are front 33, rear 37.
I had been running lower pressures because of track riding, but he said the tires just won't get nearly as hot with street stresses. I'll try and see.
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Old October 8th, 2012, 12:01 PM   #33
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This was discussed before, the headstock sticker on my pani lists front tire press to be 33.4 psi cold and rear 37.8 cold!

THe manual on page 231 lists front at 30.46 and rear at 31.9

and further "traveling on very bumpy roads increase tire pressure by 2.9 -4.35 psi to preserve the roundness of the front wheel"

any thoughts on this big discrepancy?
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Old October 8th, 2012, 01:56 PM   #34
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I keep the 1199 at 30psi rear and 31psi front cold temps for street, works great if you ride aggressively. If I take the 1199 to the track I will run 28 rear and 30 front.
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Old October 8th, 2012, 02:15 PM   #35
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I keep the 1199 at 30psi rear and 31psi front cold temps for street, works great if you ride aggressively. If I take the 1199 to the track I will run 28 rear and 30 front.
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Old October 10th, 2012, 05:27 PM   #36
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27F 26 Rear Thats me But i love it.
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32/32 cold works for me...shouldn't go over 34 hot
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Old October 11th, 2012, 07:14 AM   #38
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Just texted mechanic friend who is doing 1199 dealership training class out in Cali. His response for cold street tire pressures are front 33, rear 37.
I had been running lower pressures because of track riding, but he said the tires just won't get nearly as hot with street stresses. I'll try and see.
I've always ran 32 F and 37 R. Seams to handle a lot better
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48!!!!!

That sound a little too high. It may feel good but it's like an over inflated ball. There's no give. The air in the tire also help the ride of the bike so you might want to take it down to somewhere in the mid 30s. And have fun.
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I love how everyone is giving their ultimate pressures. Tire pressure is adjusted according to outside temp., type of road, etc. but mostly the temp. The colder it is, the lower the pressure. Right now in mass. , it's pretty cold, I'd probably go down to 28-28. Lots of highway, probably 30r-31/32f. You should probably have less or the same in the rear. If I remember correctly, pirellis and Michelin are usually the same front and rear, maybe 1 lb. up in the front. Dunlops were always 4 lbs. differance example:30r-34f. But most importantly, you need to run what feels good to you. As for the pressures on the side of the bike, they seem high. The manual is more realistic in my opinion. Good luck.
Sorry but I'd always understood that if the ambient temperature was high then you'd run lower pressures because the tires would quickly gain heat and their working pressure would rise.

We get 40c regularly and if I have the cold tire at 2.1/2.2 as per the manual when the tires are cold then surely it will be running much higher once the tires heat up and the air in the tire expands?

Anyone?
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