1199 clutch problem - its official - Page 2

zvez · May 21st, 2012, 11:49 AM

what temp do the fans kick on?

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Originally Posted by Delta One

Hi guys just to update you on this.

Did my ride on Friday morning total about 350Km/220 miles as I mentioned. Speed mostly ranged between 140 to 170 Km/hr (87 to 105 Miles/hr) with short periods of accell/decell in between.

I had no clutch problem whatsoever. Maybe mine is different ? or this issue is not directly heat related.

Rode out early morning, and at 30C/86F engine temp remained steady around 75 to 78C (167F to 173F)

Later morning once it had reached 40C/104F it held steady at around 85 to 88C (185F to 190F)

I got lucky and it was a "cool" day, by the time I got home it was only 45C/113F. and the engine was around 90C/194F, so I did not get to see it perform at 50C .....yet.

You could almost say that for the given speeds I was doing (fast highway?) engine temperature is almost linear with ambient temperature. For every ten degree Celsius Ambient goes up, engine temp also goes up approx 10 degree Celsius.

I have noticed in the little "city riding" i've done the above does not hold true, there it seems to hover around 104C /219F but I'd need to ride it a bit more at slow/start stop traffic conditions to really comment about it.

For the rest I'd note that your right leg certainly gets a good roasting at the temps we're talking about. I'ts ok at speed but at slow speed with ambient temperatures already high the heat on the right side of the bike becomes plain uncomfortable. I'm hoping Ducati or someone will bring out some kind of heat shield, I'd buy one ;-)

Anyway I hope that helps someone.

Took my bike for a small pre first service oil/filter change after the ride, better safe than sorry. Also had them fit the carbon hugger while they did the oil change ;-) Looks good!

PaddockStand · May 21st, 2012, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by zvez

what temp do the fans kick on?

102c

zvez · May 21st, 2012, 12:14 PM

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by PaddockStand

102c

Andy1199 · May 21st, 2012, 01:02 PM

I did about 180 miles myself today in temps up to 20 degrees C.

The clutch problem was intermittent throughout. A reasonable speed say 60-70 in clear air, light throttle and it's fine. Cracking on hard even to 6k with heavy use of throttle engine temp rises clutch gets stiff. Get into town speeds and it varies between stiff and almost bloody impossible as temp rises. Mine is definitely heat related so is the dealers.

Anyway time for some good news, 580 miles cracked today, 60 to the dealer tomorrow, first service, slave cylinder fix, gold chain and full system and chip here we come!!!

F to P setting too then off to Maxton to get it setup properly, then I'll stop fiddling with it...promise....ok then just one or two more pieces of carbon!!!

mat1529 · May 21st, 2012, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy1199

I did about 180 miles myself today in temps up to 20 degrees C.

The clutch problem was intermittent throughout. A reasonable speed say 60-70 in clear air, light throttle and it's fine. Cracking on hard even to 6k with heavy use of throttle engine temp rises clutch gets stiff. Get into town speeds and it varies between stiff and almost bloody impossible as temp rises. Mine is definitely heat related so is the dealers.

Anyway time for some good news, 580 miles cracked today, 60 to the dealer tomorrow, first service, slave cylinder fix, gold chain and full system and chip here we come!!!

F to P setting too then off to Maxton to get it setup properly, then I'll stop fiddling with it...promise....ok then just one or two more pieces of carbon!!!

Had my first service today... Enjoy the full system... Is awesome! Where's maxton? Wouldn't mind getting my suspension set up properly. I'm really needing some grippy rear sets, the standard pegs are way too slippy! And considering that's one of the major points of contact with the bike, is very much needed, just can't justify the £700 odd for the Ducati ones..... Mmm

JONAH · May 21st, 2012, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mat1529

Had my first service today... Enjoy the full system... Is awesome! Where's maxton? Wouldn't mind getting my suspension set up properly. I'm really needing some grippy rear sets, the standard pegs are way too slippy! And considering that's one of the major points of contact with the bike, is very much needed, just can't justify the £700 odd for the Ducati ones..... Mmm

Dont AR do some ?? Im sure Rich posted some prototypes up.???

Oh back on thread ive got 400 mile on mine at the min and have had no clutch problems as of yet.

Andy1199 · May 21st, 2012, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mat1529

Had my first service today... Enjoy the full system... Is awesome! Where's maxton? Wouldn't mind getting my suspension set up properly. I'm really needing some grippy rear sets, the standard pegs are way too slippy! And considering that's one of the major points of contact with the bike, is very much needed, just can't justify the £700 odd for the Ducati ones..... Mmm

Maxton are in Frodsham, Cheshire. Maxton Suspension home page

Yeah well rear sets, I have to agree but I don't like the DP ones. I have spoken to Gilles Tooling who say they will have something in July. I had a set on my MV F4 and they were incredible. Tons of adjustment and the finish was in titanium. I have a pic somewhere I will dig out and you will see what I mean.

Try gilles.tooling - Shop or

Gilles AS31GT Adjustable Rearsets - Demon Tweeks

They give you an idea to the quality. Just awesome.

herby22 · May 21st, 2012, 03:53 PM

Can you tell us what they did to fix your slave cylinder? Scotch Brite ???

bradp51 · May 21st, 2012, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaIV

1199 already recalled in oz for brake pads... Along with most of their Ducati lines

what recall

there is only a couple on the road in australia

i was at the dealer few days ago and nothing about a recall for 1199 brakes

where is your info from

oblong · May 21st, 2012, 05:12 PM

mine goes into falseN when accelerating hard from 5th gear to 6th gear?

Andy1199 · May 21st, 2012, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by herby22

Can you tell us what they did to fix your slave cylinder? Scotch Brite ???

So they tell me, it's going in today so I'll let you know if it works when I get it back in the next couple of weeks.

Xbox · May 22nd, 2012, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Andy1199

So they tell me, it's going in today so I'll let you know if it works when I get it back in the next couple of weeks.

WEEKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What are the gonna do to it

Delta One · May 22nd, 2012, 04:40 AM

Sorry to hear your problem is persisting. Hope it's a quick fix and not "weeks". !!!

Andy1199 · May 22nd, 2012, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Xbox

WEEKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What are the gonna do to it

That's down to me more than them, I'm off for my stag weekend to Portugal on Thursday for five days then busy when I get back so I said two weeks is fine. All dealers are busy this time of year doing pdi's on new bikes and summer bikers getting services and MOTs so I would rather they do it well than quickly. I want no burnt side panel from the big manifold!

He also mentioned that the PDI in the UK includes switching the bikes to P from F and mine wasn't done so technically it's a freebie. I have to say I've done 300 UK miles in the last 24 hours and I'm well and truly knackered now. Mainly down to three things. The sticky, faulty clutch, the totally unforgiving rear end in F, so bad on a bumpy road your vision goes and also a new thing I've noticed, handle bar vibration. I guess when you bolt the headstock straight to the motor it's only to be expected. I was getting bad pins and needles in the right hand (seems to affect the right mirror too) luckily the right hand does nothing important, only the throttle

Anyway it's more likely I'm not used to doing 300 miles on one and I'm a bit out of shape.

So pleased when that oil service indicator came up at 622 miles. I ended up on 680 so I overdid it a bit on the way to the dealer. The orange rev limit goes too and becomes all nice and black to 11k, but I stuck With the 6k ish may be 7....definitely not 8...I think.

So weeks off for my wrists to recover sounds fine to me!

Xbox · May 22nd, 2012, 09:27 AM

Understood dude

I got really bad pins and needles in my right hand also, but put it down to old age

Glad your off on your stag, your "throttle" wrist should get a proper rest if you do it proper

husker1 · May 22nd, 2012, 12:14 PM

Andy
Which brand chain are you upgrading to?

Andy1199 · May 22nd, 2012, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Xbox

Understood dude

I got really bad pins and needles in my right hand also, but put it down to old age

Glad your off on your stag, your "throttle" wrist should get a proper rest if you do it proper

Lol, brilliant!!

Andy1199 · May 22nd, 2012, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by husker1

Andy
Which brand chain are you upgrading to?

DID always used em on all my ducatis. They last really well if maintained well, look great, and don't rust the first time they see rain like the stock one does unless you smother it in lube.

Anyone recommend a good lube, don't like waxes, I'm using AFAM at the mo but it does seem to fling a bit.

husker1 · May 22nd, 2012, 12:40 PM

Thanks - I will check them out

Phil · May 22nd, 2012, 12:41 PM

"Profi dry lube" ever since... I don't know if present on the UK market

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Andy1199 Senior Member Joined: Apr 2012 From: UK Posts: 157 Thanks: 2 I Ride: 1199 Tricolore, Multistrada Pikes Peak, 748R	I did about 180 miles myself today in temps up to 20 degrees C. The clutch problem was intermittent throughout. A reasonable speed say 60-70 in clear air, light throttle and it's fine. Cracking on hard even to 6k with heavy use of throttle engine temp rises clutch gets stiff. Get into town speeds and it varies between stiff and almost bloody impossible as temp rises. Mine is definitely heat related so is the dealers. Anyway time for some good news, 580 miles cracked today, 60 to the dealer tomorrow, first service, slave cylinder fix, gold chain and full system and chip here we come!!! F to P setting too then off to Maxton to get it setup properly, then I'll stop fiddling with it...promise....ok then just one or two more pieces of carbon!!!

May 21st, 2012, 03:53 PM	#28
herby22 Member Joined: Nov 2011 From: Neskowin, Or. Posts: 38 Thanks: 0 I Ride: 996 Ducati, soon a Panigale S ABS	Can you tell us what they did to fix your slave cylinder? Scotch Brite ???

May 21st, 2012, 05:12 PM	#30
oblong Member Joined: Apr 2012 From: Florida Posts: 83 Thanks: 0	mine goes into falseN when accelerating hard from 5th gear to 6th gear?

May 22nd, 2012, 04:40 AM	#33
Delta One Senior Member Joined: Mar 2012 From: Dubai UAE Posts: 462 Thanks: 11 I Ride: 1199 Panigale S Tricolore and an 848	Sorry to hear your problem is persisting. Hope it's a quick fix and not "weeks". !!!

May 22nd, 2012, 09:27 AM	#35
Xbox Senior Member Joined: Jan 2012 From: The Med Posts: 1,607 Thanks: 74 I Ride: 1199 Tric	Understood dude I got really bad pins and needles in my right hand also, but put it down to old age Glad your off on your stag, your "throttle" wrist should get a proper rest if you do it proper

May 22nd, 2012, 12:14 PM	#36
husker1 Senior Member Joined: May 2012 From: England Posts: 223 Thanks: 0 I Ride: 1199 Base + ABS, Ducati GT-1000	Andy Which brand chain are you upgrading to?

May 22nd, 2012, 12:40 PM	#39
husker1 Senior Member Joined: May 2012 From: England Posts: 223 Thanks: 0 I Ride: 1199 Base + ABS, Ducati GT-1000	Thanks - I will check them out

May 22nd, 2012, 12:41 PM	#40
Phil Senior Member Joined: Feb 2012 From: my garage Posts: 1,339 Thanks: 152 I Ride: oh yes, I do!!!	"Profi dry lube" ever since... I don't know if present on the UK market