Dyno Results from 1199s - Page 3

Phil · May 23rd, 2012, 05:46 AM

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Spoon · October 1st, 2012, 05:21 AM

Upon conducting any of the Dyno runs did anybody have the rear wheel sensor removed prior to the run being carried out???

Even though the primary use for the sensor is for the traction control it is also used by the computer to adjust the fuelling based on air intake pressure which is why when we were testing our demo ready for race prep ducati told us to remove the sensor prior to the run as the results we had so far were 175-185bhp with alot of flames from the exhaust and the fueling at top end not quite right.

We are running a standard ABS model this afternoon with the sensor removed i will endevour to get the results up, its been run in and currently at 1124 miles on the clock

gilesr6 · November 15th, 2012, 07:33 AM

Mine only made 164hp/84 tq

SPJ · November 15th, 2012, 07:53 AM

I'm very very sceptical of the figures Ducati have produced. My old R1 would hit 180 plus on the mountain mile, with more weight and less power. Couldn't get the Panigale past 175, it struggled to match the 4's in a straight line.

Aerodynamics might play a part but for me the bike doesn't have anywhere near the power claimed. A friend recently took his to the Autobahn along with an 2010 R1, the Yamaha pulverised it. It's the one area of the bike I'm disappointed with.

mr anderson · November 15th, 2012, 09:41 AM

does anyone have instructions on how to disconnect the rear wheel speed sensor or where the connector is located on the bike?

yzf856 · November 15th, 2012, 02:52 PM

SPJ, I was able to get my Panigale to 188mph in 9/10's of a mile here in Tennessee on a deserted piece of straight road. My bike only Has slip-ons and up-map installed in it. I had a built 09 R1 with piper cams and ported head and race velocity stacks and that bike could only muster 190 mph in the same distance, that bike was slow stock could do maybe 170. If I buy the rapid bike or tune boy for the Panigale and get it tuned in I know this bike would be easily capable of going over 190 mph.

All speeds were measured with a gps

SPJ · November 16th, 2012, 02:20 AM

Thanks, interesting to know. My R1 had PCV and Akra slip ons, Panigale has Termi slip ons and up map. I'm fairly unaerodynamic, probably fitted in behind the fairing better on the Yam! Speedo's could be a bit different too. Now have the Rapidbike, will be interested to see what it's like when the weather improves.

CW AF 03 · November 16th, 2012, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhino

An N/A with a BOV?

OK.

On a dyno, they ram air. Standard procedure. If they don't, unstrap your bike and leave.
If they don't do it:
a) the bike will perform badly; but more importantly
b) it will simply overheat

I'm pretty sure the fans are to push air through the radiator so the bike doesn't overheat. I'd be cautious of any dyno operator who points those things into the intakes...

AntiHero · November 16th, 2012, 07:05 PM

Panigale 1199 S Dyno Run - YouTube

171 at the wheel. Air was blowing into the radiator, but not into the intake.

desmodromic system · November 16th, 2012, 07:25 PM

185hp at the wheels and you are still disapointed? you are very hard to please my friend. with that much power you can pretty much pull your hands off when you fully open the throttle.

the Initail Panigale's pulled around 168-175whp, so your 185hp is really a good number.

Racing2818 · March 7th, 2013, 05:11 AM

I have a 1199 Tricolore. It has the termi slip on mufflers but not the full system. Does anyone have the dyno numbers for adding the full termi exhaust with 70mm tubes to the slip on mufflers? Is it worth the price of adding the race exhasut at @ $1,800 or is the perfomance improvement negligible?

Phil · March 7th, 2013, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racing2818

I have a 1199 Tricolore. It has the termi slip on mufflers but not the full system. Does anyone have the dyno numbers for adding the full termi exhaust with 70mm tubes to the slip on mufflers? Is it worth the price of adding the race exhasut at @ $1,800 or is the perfomance improvement negligible?

check Rich22's thread about the austin racing exhaust. Lots of pages, but also several dyno charts with various systems.

George Villar · March 7th, 2013, 06:44 AM

None of us will ever use the HP the 1199 is capable of - coming out from an apex…..

(Wait, Rossi… you watching this?) He's excluded.

George Villar

1199r8 · May 17th, 2013, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray916MN

You may want to watch this thread Panigale remapping ecu - Ducati.ms - The Ultimate Ducati Forum .

The ECU tables have been cracked and tuners are starting to go at them this week. Direct re-mapping of the ECU gives finer fueling control than the PCV which remaps by fooling the sensors. My tuner goes to work on my bike next week.

One interesting aside is the speed sensor needs to be pulled to properly dyno the 1199. The fuel map richens with speed, to compensate for the additional air from the ram air intake. Of course on a dyno, there effectively isn't any ram air, so the engine runs rich.

Has any figured out instructions for how to pull out the speed sensor?

elitesoldier357 · May 17th, 2013, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPJ

I'm very very sceptical of the figures Ducati have produced. My old R1 would hit 180 plus on the mountain mile, with more weight and less power. Couldn't get the Panigale past 175, it struggled to match the 4's in a straight line.

Aerodynamics might play a part but for me the bike doesn't have anywhere near the power claimed. A friend recently took his to the Autobahn along with an 2010 R1, the Yamaha pulverised it. It's the one area of the bike I'm disappointed with.

I think something may be mechanically wrong with the bike. R1 shouldn't be taking you for a trip.

WiseOne · May 17th, 2013, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zaster

You are correct about the 195 hp hype which is dissappointing but pretty much expected.

195 flywheel.

gatti man · May 20th, 2013, 05:35 PM

I pulled on every other 1000cc at the track yesterday in the straights. R1s couldn't keep up in the straights. Maybe its a weight issue as riders can vary all over the place. I'm 6' 175lbs.

October 1st, 2012, 05:21 AM	#42
Spoon Junior Member Joined: Oct 2012 From: somerset Posts: 1 Thanks: 0	Dyno Results Flawed Upon conducting any of the Dyno runs did anybody have the rear wheel sensor removed prior to the run being carried out??? Even though the primary use for the sensor is for the traction control it is also used by the computer to adjust the fuelling based on air intake pressure which is why when we were testing our demo ready for race prep ducati told us to remove the sensor prior to the run as the results we had so far were 175-185bhp with alot of flames from the exhaust and the fueling at top end not quite right. We are running a standard ABS model this afternoon with the sensor removed i will endevour to get the results up, its been run in and currently at 1124 miles on the clock

March 7th, 2013, 06:44 AM	#53
George Villar Senior Member Joined: Jul 2012 From: New York City Posts: 427 Thanks: 68 I Ride: Ducati 1199 Tricolore S, 1199 Panigale ABS, Bimota Tesi2D,DB-7,DB1,etc. BMW alpha Racing s1000rr	None of us will ever use the HP the 1199 is capable of - coming out from an apex….. (Wait, Rossi… you watching this?) He's excluded. George Villar Thanks from VAST

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May 23rd, 2012, 05:46 AM	#41
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November 15th, 2012, 07:53 AM	#44
SPJ Senior Member Joined: Feb 2012 From: England Posts: 186 Thanks: 21	I'm very very sceptical of the figures Ducati have produced. My old R1 would hit 180 plus on the mountain mile, with more weight and less power. Couldn't get the Panigale past 175, it struggled to match the 4's in a straight line. Aerodynamics might play a part but for me the bike doesn't have anywhere near the power claimed. A friend recently took his to the Autobahn along with an 2010 R1, the Yamaha pulverised it. It's the one area of the bike I'm disappointed with.

November 15th, 2012, 09:41 AM	#45
mr anderson Senior Member Joined: Nov 2011 From: moore, ok Posts: 128 Thanks: 6 I Ride: '12 1199 Panigale S Tricolore, '11 Diavel Carbon black	does anyone have instructions on how to disconnect the rear wheel speed sensor or where the connector is located on the bike?

November 15th, 2012, 02:52 PM	#46
yzf856 Junior Member Joined: May 2012 From: Florida Posts: 17 Thanks: 2	SPJ, I was able to get my Panigale to 188mph in 9/10's of a mile here in Tennessee on a deserted piece of straight road. My bike only Has slip-ons and up-map installed in it. I had a built 09 R1 with piper cams and ported head and race velocity stacks and that bike could only muster 190 mph in the same distance, that bike was slow stock could do maybe 170. If I buy the rapid bike or tune boy for the Panigale and get it tuned in I know this bike would be easily capable of going over 190 mph. All speeds were measured with a gps

November 16th, 2012, 02:20 AM	#47
SPJ Senior Member Joined: Feb 2012 From: England Posts: 186 Thanks: 21	Thanks, interesting to know. My R1 had PCV and Akra slip ons, Panigale has Termi slip ons and up map. I'm fairly unaerodynamic, probably fitted in behind the fairing better on the Yam! Speedo's could be a bit different too. Now have the Rapidbike, will be interested to see what it's like when the weather improves.

November 16th, 2012, 07:25 PM	#50
desmodromic system Senior Member Joined: May 2012 From: Manila Philippines Posts: 103 Thanks: 6 I Ride: 1199 Panigale R, BMW SKRR	185hp at the wheels and you are still disapointed? you are very hard to please my friend. with that much power you can pretty much pull your hands off when you fully open the throttle. the Initail Panigale's pulled around 168-175whp, so your 185hp is really a good number.

March 7th, 2013, 05:11 AM	#51
Racing2818 Junior Member Joined: Jul 2012 From: Illinois Posts: 3 Thanks: 0	I have a 1199 Tricolore. It has the termi slip on mufflers but not the full system. Does anyone have the dyno numbers for adding the full termi exhaust with 70mm tubes to the slip on mufflers? Is it worth the price of adding the race exhasut at @ $1,800 or is the perfomance improvement negligible?

May 20th, 2013, 05:35 PM	#57
gatti man Junior Member Joined: May 2013 From: Austin tx Posts: 18 Thanks: 0	I pulled on every other 1000cc at the track yesterday in the straights. R1s couldn't keep up in the straights. Maybe its a weight issue as riders can vary all over the place. I'm 6' 175lbs.