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Old October 22nd, 2012, 02:42 PM   #81
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So far this is all talk... Maybe that's why??? I must admit AR talk a great game but so far..no product and considering how long they have been posting about this on here I really do feel there's a certain level of BS going on here....
STW,

You really seem to stir up trouble don't you? AR makes some great products. Specifically I ran across them with their exhaust for the S1000RR.

Geez dude, get a life...
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Old October 22nd, 2012, 03:11 PM   #82
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It's done to eliminate the need for tyre warmers and thus offset the capital purchase a little
I was going to say the same thing hahaha!! Nevertheless, I like this design much better Rich.
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Old October 22nd, 2012, 04:32 PM   #83
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I wonder when will AR be able to ship completed exhausts.

What's the new release date and will we see it before the akra?

Back in June it was just 6-8 weeks away.
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Old October 22nd, 2012, 11:25 PM   #84
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Ok the low down from us is that development is taking time as we have been testing many different set ups. After the problems with the termi system performance and heat issues we don't want to make the same mistakes. We have also looked at the problems racers are having with trying to adapt a catch all Bellypan. We don't want to produce a system that simply sits with other manufacturers systems, we want to produce something special as we do for the RSV4, BMWS1000 and ZX10.

We have many options on outlet design that will be tweaked as the system is finalised. Giving you guys the opportunity to feedback and give suggestions is a good productive thing. After all, Honda have asked for public opinions on there new V4 project!
Keep your comments coming, twin exit style, MOTO GP style?

We are still on schedule to show the system at the uk nec show end of November.
We believe Akra will show there system in Milan early November.
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Old October 23rd, 2012, 12:36 AM   #85
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I think for looks the exhaust has to exit in the same area and style as the stock system however, using a wider, more race looking slash cut tip.

The rear exhaust loop is there to get the length on the rear header I presume? Would switching to a single silencer eliminate this issue like the Akra system for the RC8 does which does not use a loop? This single can could then exit on one or both sides at its rear.
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We are experimenting with lengths and have found the loop has to stay to get best results. The single outlet idea with a full bellypan is favourite.
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Old October 23rd, 2012, 05:49 AM   #87
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Ok the low down from us is that development is taking time as we have been testing many different set ups. After the problems with the termi system performance and heat issues we don't want to make the same mistakes. We have also looked at the problems racers are having with trying to adapt a catch all Bellypan. We don't want to produce a system that simply sits with other manufacturers systems, we want to produce something special as we do for the RSV4, BMWS1000 and ZX10.

We have many options on outlet design that will be tweaked as the system is finalised. Giving you guys the opportunity to feedback and give suggestions is a good productive thing. After all, Honda have asked for public opinions on there new V4 project!
Keep your comments coming, twin exit style, MOTO GP style?

We are still on schedule to show the system at the uk nec show end of November.
We believe Akra will show there system in Milan early November.
Bravo Rich, good answer, common sense would realize that manufacturers are having a tough time developing a system for the panigale.It must be time consuming, Just my opinion, I could be wrong
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Old October 23rd, 2012, 05:59 AM   #88
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Very time consuming. We are on it right now.
The Panigale is a problem bike full stop!
The design of the exhausts is very complex and as you can imagine very expensive to produce tooling for the parts (20K+) and then the parts on top..
We are looking at every option prior to pressing the button, we need to be sure on the end results:
Performance
Ease of fitment
Heat transfer
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Old October 23rd, 2012, 06:05 AM   #89
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Thanks for the info Rich. I know in the end you guys will produce something that has the style and performance to go along with our bikes and that is different from everyone else. Subscribed!
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Old October 23rd, 2012, 06:11 AM   #90
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Rich, will your system come with an upmap, or require a piggyback ?
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Old October 23rd, 2012, 06:16 AM   #91
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We can offer a ecu re map, we will work out if an exchange will be an option. Although Piggyback is the best solution for a far more accurate map.
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Old October 23rd, 2012, 07:00 AM   #92
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Ok the low down from us is that development is taking time as we have been testing many different set ups. After the problems with the termi system performance and heat issues we don't want to make the same mistakes. We have also looked at the problems racers are having with trying to adapt a catch all Bellypan. We don't want to produce a system that simply sits with other manufacturers systems, we want to produce something special as we do for the RSV4, BMWS1000 and ZX10.

We have many options on outlet design that will be tweaked as the system is finalised. Giving you guys the opportunity to feedback and give suggestions is a good productive thing. After all, Honda have asked for public opinions on there new V4 project!
Keep your comments coming, twin exit style, MOTO GP style?

We are still on schedule to show the system at the uk nec show end of November.
We believe Akra will show there system in Milan early November.
great to see you requestion owners feedback, I would personally like a design similar to stock but with a carbon can and/or Ti end tip. will be interesting to see your design.

btw have you seen the photos floating around of the newish termi design for the pipe under the seat?
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Old October 23rd, 2012, 07:36 AM   #93
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Yes but unsure to what the pictures actually show, they are not clear.
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A snapshot of us so you can check out what we are about: ABOUT US - austinracing
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Old October 23rd, 2012, 11:19 AM   #95
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Yes, it has to work correctly or will not sell. It also has to truly have a benefit over stock. To me, the termi's really don't, so I'm not buying them. I'm not saying the termi's aren't better than stock, rather, they just are not enough improvement to warrant replacing stockers to me....


QUOTE=Rich22;36875]Very time consuming. We are on it right now.
The Panigale is a problem bike full stop!
The design of the exhausts is very complex and as you can imagine very expensive to produce tooling for the parts (20K+) and then the parts on top..
We are looking at every option prior to pressing the button, we need to be sure on the end results:
Performance
Ease of fitment
Heat transfer
Visual design[/QUOTE]
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Old October 23rd, 2012, 02:13 PM   #96
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Good to get feedback, its a photoshop idea to see what kind of response you all give.
Nothing has been finalised as we are still working on performance from the system. Once we get to where we want to be with that we will then finalise a design.
We are looking at the conventional twin outlets but the single side moto gp style could be a possibility.
This is closer to the end look:
Yeah,twin exits on the right hand side like Capirossi"s 2006 desmo will get my money. Go to utube and look for "Desmosidici at JHP" check out the blue flames coming out of side exit pipes. Imagine that on your Pani. I haven"t been able to find a good pic of the said bike,so the vid will have to do.

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Old October 23rd, 2012, 04:55 PM   #97
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I gotta admit supduc10.......you are on to something.....this exhaust setup is the hottest design I have ever seen.....if austin comes out with this.....i will sell my still unboxed full termis for there system.....im more about design than anything else!.....bravo to supduc10.....oh yea....i found this pic jus for you man
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I just found out that even the full system doesnt remove o2 sensors like the full system did on the xx98 series......that is some bull.....now it all makes sense
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Old October 24th, 2012, 02:29 PM   #99
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I gotta admit supduc10.......you are on to something.....this exhaust setup is the hottest design I have ever seen.....if austin comes out with this.....i will sell my still unboxed full termis for there system.....im more about design than anything else!.....bravo to supduc10.....oh yea....i found this pic jus for you man
I mentioned porting it to one say early in this thread. I would buy a system that filled in the gap and had ported exhaust.
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I gotta admit supduc10.......you are on to something.....this exhaust setup is the hottest design I have ever seen.....if austin comes out with this.....i will sell my still unboxed full termis for there system.....im more about design than anything else!.....bravo to supduc10.....oh yea....i found this pic jus for you man
hey d1098 howz about these shots to wet your whistle,bit more detail,but not great as i"ve copied these out of a book with phone cam.
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