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Old July 27th, 2012, 02:58 PM   #1
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Turn signal problem

Alright, just curious if anyone else has seen this. Periodically, my entire right side turn indicators do not light up.. both front and back on the right side only. it will work for a while and then after the bike heats up, it stops.. the left side works fine... Until this...

The dealer swapped out the switch with another used one but still same problem. Ironically, after the second switch was put on, the left signal will go on but not cancel off. It just stays on until I stop the bike and turn off the ignition.

Any of ya'll seen this?
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Old July 27th, 2012, 03:37 PM   #2
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very odd. never had any issues with any lights. even replaced rear turn signals with smaller ones too. stumped on this one.
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Old July 27th, 2012, 03:46 PM   #3
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I'm kinda thinking its a dash computer problem however, not sure.. in addition if I hold the center button and go into the screen to change from race, to sport and wet.. the center button is acting weird.. it won't let me select the new mode.

The guys at my dealer say the switches are crap but, since we changed out the switch and the problem gets worse it has me stumped.

I just went out to wipe all the grime off it and fired it up and it works fine.. of course, if I ride it.. as it does everytime, the problem comes back.

It is hella hot here in Austin this time of year.. don't know if that has anything to do with it.
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Old July 27th, 2012, 05:24 PM   #4
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Yes I have same problem. Not to fond of mechanics in my area. When I get time will try and check for short in line. Took switches apart did not see anything. Using hand signal if cops around for now. Mine will usually stop working around 220 degrees
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Ok.. that tells me its not a fluke. I shouldn't have to use hand signals when riding my brand new $20k bike.

Let me know your findings... If you ever do.

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Looks like members on other forums have seen this same problem. I'm hoping someone will chime in with the fix..

My dealer seems to say they have never seen this issue.
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Looks like members on other forums have seen this same problem. I'm hoping someone will chime in with the fix..

My dealer seems to say they have never seen this issue.
If you need more expertise than your dealer provides let me know. I can get you directed toward a more experienced individual. Or since you are in Tex-ASS with all those hotties give Jeff Nash a shout over at Advanced Motorsports in Dallas. He has been around Ducati a long damn time and should be a help.
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Thanks Gunny.. I'm gonna blast around the hill country tomorrow and then drop it off with my local Tex-ASS dealer on Tuesday.... If others have had the same issue, I'm sure your boy has heard of it..

Frustrating...
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Old August 1st, 2012, 12:48 PM   #9
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Dropped the Pani off for this problem.. hopefully they will fix it. Anyone else seen this issue?

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Old August 1st, 2012, 02:13 PM   #10
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Please let me know what they find. Unable to do anything yet. Thanks
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Old August 4th, 2012, 07:41 AM   #11
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Well, my dealer called me... they said its a faulty ECU/dash display. They said there is a new part number replacement for the bike.

That leads me to believe it's happened to more than a few other bikes.

Supposed to have a new dash this Wednesday. Will see if that fixes my problem.
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Old August 4th, 2012, 09:09 AM   #12
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I got this problem, start is the up and right button, then more button is not working, I use contact cleaner o clean the switch but seems only work when the bike is not heated up, dear will swap a switch for me, but now I am worry is the ecu problem......
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I got this problem, start is the up and right button, then more button is not working, I use contact cleaner o clean the switch but seems only work when the bike is not heated up, dear will swap a switch for me, but now I am worry is the ecu problem......
I am having this issue as well. It is intermittant so the heat theory makes sense. Please let us know what the dealers are doing, have not taken the bike in yet.

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Old August 4th, 2012, 01:35 PM   #14
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It's not the switch because we have tried swapping it with a new one and the problem still happens. It's an ECU problem. Ducati is obviously aware of it and has an entirely new part number ECU now. At least that's what my dealer is telling me.



I don't think it's heat related... it's more of a "time" thing... after the bike is on for a while, the ECU stops recognizing the control. It happens when the bike is less than 200 degrees.

Not that I think it matters but, are your bikes Base, S or Tri?

Mines a Base.
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It's not the switch because we have tried swapping it with a new one and the problem still happens. It's an ECU problem. Ducati is obviously aware of it and has an entirely new part number ECU now. At least that's what my dealer is telling me.



I don't think it's heat related... it's more of a "time" thing... after the bike is on for a while, the ECU stops recognizing the control. It happens when the bike is less than 200 degrees.

Not that I think it matters but, are your bikes Base, S or Tri?

Mines a Base.
Mine is a S, although like you said I assume everything is the same
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It's not the switch because we have tried swapping it with a new one and the problem still happens. It's an ECU problem. Ducati is obviously aware of it and has an entirely new part number ECU now. At least that's what my dealer is telling me.



I don't think it's heat related... it's more of a "time" thing... after the bike is on for a while, the ECU stops recognizing the control. It happens when the bike is less than 200 degrees.

Not that I think it matters but, are your bikes Base, S or Tri?

Mines a Base.
It is not the ECU problem, i'm sure,that is just the engine management .But instead the Instrument panel (connected to FR indicator lamp) and BBS (connected to RR indicator lamp). With reference to the Owner's manual wiring diagram,Notice the connector59 (FR indicator) is connected to ITEM57 (Panel) and connector14 (RR indicator)to ITEM19 (BBS).

The body/Chasis electronics are totally separated from the Engine control Unit (ECU) ITEM6.

The LH switch module, is just a passive element in the system, it is unlikely to be responsible.

Best way is to reflash the software of the Panel and BBS and see if problem still persist..
if so then maybe is Hardware related, the drivers for the lamps may have gone into over-temp shutdown to protect itself from self heating while driving the lamps, due to high external or ambient temperature from bike environment.

Just using an example of a 55W lamp driver with over-temp shutdown feature see document's page 12 with self-recovery , should be pretty standard feature in most electronics even for indicator lamp...

http://documentation.renesas.com/doc...8EJ2V0DS00.pdf

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Old August 5th, 2012, 12:35 AM   #17
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Here is my symptom
Leave the bike without key for over one hour
Insert the key and turn to on, (no need to start engine)
All switches are function,
Play for 2 to 3 minute, the right signal and up button is not working
If u remove the key and insert in a short time, switches remain not working
But if u leave the for a longer time say one hour, then it works only for 2-3 min
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i captured a video for the failure, pls click below and view it

the up and right switch will fail after you have start the switch for 2'50"
then you have to remove the key for an hour and the switch will get back to normal again but again only last for around 3 min

Ducati 1199s switch failure - YouTube

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Old August 5th, 2012, 11:33 AM   #19
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Thanks for the video. Between the three of us we have a Tri, S, and Base.
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Old August 6th, 2012, 07:09 AM   #20
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you got same problem which the switch is functional in the first few minutes?
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