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| Member Joined: Aug 2012 From: Brew City Posts: 67 Thanks: 2 I Ride: Lots | Panigale Down for good
Saw this post on another forum. Poor bike. Ripped to shreds. "http://www.s1000rrforum.com/forum/s1000rr-lounge/15676-why-i-have-s1rr-not-panigale.html" Literally there is nothing left of the bike, but the rider is ok. |
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| Senior Member Joined: Jun 2012 From: Phoenix,AZ Posts: 787 Thanks: 74 I Ride: 1199 Panigale |
Not to rain on your parade but this is old news. That crash happened several months ago just as Pani's were starting to ship Leave it to a bimmer forum to post old Panigale news They should be more concerned with their connecting rod issues Last edited by rm4two; August 28th, 2012 at 09:26 AM. |
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| Senior Member Joined: Jul 2012 From: New York City Posts: 426 Thanks: 68 I Ride: Ducati 1199 Tricolore S, 1199 Panigale ABS, Bimota Tesi2D,DB-7,DB1,etc. BMW alpha Racing s1000rr |
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| Senior Member Joined: Jul 2012 From: Omaha, NE USA Posts: 347 Thanks: 33 I Ride: 1199 Panigale |
That was a racer in South Africa, crashed at 150mph and the bike flipped several times, NO bike is going to survive that crash! Retards have been re-posting that crash over and over again all year as "evidence" that the Panigale is a fragile little flower that will break in half if it falls over in a parking lot. I've even seen just the photo of the smashed bike posted without the preceeding shots showing how the crash happened, and statements made about how this was a low-speed STREET bike crash and the Panigale dismantled itself. The BMW and Aprilia forums can be pretty comical when they're talking about Ducati..... But since the info is out there, people read it and automatically believe it. I've had several people in the showroom this year looking at the Panigale and saying "Yeah, but I heard they fall apart if they fall over". "Heard", means I read it on an internet forum. Some people have even refrained from buying a Panigale because they were concerned about it's crashworthiness. The internets are great and all, but sometimes there's a downside in perpetuating myths, it's virtually impossible to stop it.
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| Senior Member Joined: Jun 2012 From: Phoenix,AZ Posts: 787 Thanks: 74 I Ride: 1199 Panigale |
The interesting thing about with this get-off is what's NOT talked about; the swingarm connecting points. There had to be some serious forces involved here to snap the swingarm? The fact that it gave way before the engine casing mounting points is a testament to the strength of the casing.
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| Senior Member Joined: Jul 2012 From: Omaha, NE USA Posts: 347 Thanks: 33 I Ride: 1199 Panigale |
Good point, a swingarm is a lot cheaper than a set of engine cases for sure!
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| Senior Member Joined: Jan 2012 From: East TN Posts: 312 Thanks: 32 |
Can't remember the forum offhand, but I do recall a seeing a post from someone close to that team in SA in reply to one such such thread. He noted that same bike was rebuilt and back on track the next weekend. So much for down for good! Send any bike flipping off course at 100mph+ and you're going to tear lots of peripheral stuff up or off; fairings, bars, pegs, subframe, etc. With a Panigale there's not much left but the motor, so there you are. That bike ended up with the engine, monocoque (i.e. frame, since that's all the frame it has), tank, whole front end, radiators, & exhaust intact. Thing that makes it look so dramatic is the rear end being gone; otherwise it's just another bike wreck at the track. That swingarm is a high-ticket item for sure, but I'd say anything with a single sided AL or MG swingarm would snap there if you whack it at the right angle. I think the thing actually is designed to shed parts in a crash to protect the engine. When I first saw the front shock mount in pics, I thought it was seriously flimsy-looking. Then I thought about what it would entail if you tore the shock mounting hole out of the side of the engine, and that little triangular mounting bracket and unsupported front shoulder bolt started making a lot more sense. |
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| Senior Member Joined: Jul 2012 From: Omaha, NE USA Posts: 347 Thanks: 33 I Ride: 1199 Panigale |
+1 I think you're right that Ducati undoubtedly paid attention to what would happen in a crash when they designed the bike that they're hoping to win multiple World Superbike championships on! It would make a lot of sense for the things bolted to the engine to break off rather than making them so strong that they engine cases would break first. My old 848 (version 1) went cartwheeling off the track at high speed and bent the swingarm, which was no better than having the swingarm break in half, it still needed to be replaced! $$$
Last edited by jarelj; August 28th, 2012 at 06:16 PM. |
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| Senior Member Joined: Dec 2011 From: Canada Posts: 443 Thanks: 35 I Ride: 1199 Base, '12 Arctic Cat F800SP |
Lowsided mine a month ago and all I can say is that I've never seen a bike crash that well! Broken shift lever, scraped bar end, clutch lever and footpeg. Minor srcatch on the left side fairing that was completely removed by a little buffing, no damage at all to either the forks or the swingarm. Everyone who saw the crash was in disbelief, the bike slid down the track for about a hundred feet
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| Senior Member Joined: Jul 2012 From: Omaha, NE USA Posts: 347 Thanks: 33 I Ride: 1199 Panigale | Quote:
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| Senior Member Joined: Dec 2011 From: Canada Posts: 443 Thanks: 35 I Ride: 1199 Base, '12 Arctic Cat F800SP |
Once you own a Bimmer you get to know everything...we chumps keep dwelling in ignorance ![]() ![]() |
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| Senior Member Joined: May 2012 From: Austin Fucking Texas Bitches!!! Posts: 145 Thanks: 5 | Quote:
Having seen now a couple dropped Panigales, I am a beliver that it indeed does handle a crash suprisingly well. | |
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| Senior Member Joined: Aug 2012 From: Yuba City CA Posts: 200 Thanks: 4 I Ride: The bees knees. |
So you are telling me that if you push your motorcycle at high speeds, it may break into pieces? Holy shit, please, please, Ducati, tell your customers that their high performance motorcycle may disassemble itself at high speeds. What a piece of shit motorcycle. /Sarcasm Physics isn't for just anyone is it? |
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| Member Joined: May 2012 From: Melboune, VIC, Australia Posts: 35 Thanks: 0 |
In cars we call them crumple zones...LOL
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| Senior Member Joined: Jan 2012 From: The Netherlands Posts: 167 Thanks: 14 | I lowsided mine with about 75 mph and fell on the left. Had 10000 Euro in damage. Parts are very expensive. Left handle bar broke off, snapped off gear shift lever and many skidded parts. Tank had a big dent. Had a DP swingarm cover but had damage on the swingarm. Nothing wrong with the rear shock. Ordered a new 2013 without extra costs.
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| Senior Member Joined: Nov 2012 From: Brisbane Australia Posts: 206 Thanks: 78 I Ride: R1, 675R, 1199s, 1199, TL1000R | We will see!!
Well guys, we will see this season, I could post some pics of our R1 dumped at 220kms at the heyshed Philip islands, we have a pair of 1199s this season and I don't think they bend any worse than other makes... One of the 2011 pro stock riders dumped his zx10 end over end at hidden valley at about 270kms and destroyed it.... They bend when u crash them, it's life, I have seen the forks ripped off of a BMW... |
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| Senior Member Joined: Oct 2012 From: here to eternity Posts: 111 Thanks: 10 |
Doesn't matter how many times you crash a Pani, it'll still never be as ugly as the BMW.....
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| Senior Member Joined: Nov 2012 From: Coto de Caza, CA Posts: 105 Thanks: 8 I Ride: '12 Panigale | |
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| Senior Member Joined: Dec 2011 From: Canada Posts: 443 Thanks: 35 I Ride: 1199 Base, '12 Arctic Cat F800SP |
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| Senior Member Joined: Jun 2012 From: St. Louis Posts: 3,126 Thanks: 476 I Ride: 1199 ABS, K1300S, ZX7R | Quote:
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